Re: The game is slowly going to die.

Thanks for thinking for me and telling me how I think. It's an amazing trick done often on this forum. Good luck out there.

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Re: The game is slowly going to die.

Rex Amelius wrote:

Thanks for thinking for me and telling me how I think. It's an amazing trick done often on this forum. Good luck out there.

You are quite welcome.. Reading A-S-S Hatters minds like yours is very easy! We should do it again sometime!

All warfare is based on deception. Hence, when we are able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must appear inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near.”
― Sun Tzu, The Art of War

28 (edited by Kaz Rock Horgarsson 2014-09-08 01:58:28)

Re: The game is slowly going to die.

ladies and gentlemen, this thread is mean to help the game, There NO fighting allow in this Thread, If you want talk *** about them then go on general chat and talk *** about whom ever you seen to toss your rage at.


Any and all that "NOT" on topic shall be reported and be ignore


I know that a BS move but I want to help the game and not have the thread turn into a rage thread.

We are civil peoples, not a raging ten year old.

So I'm sorry to all that I offended.

Re: The game is slowly going to die.

Kaz Rock Horgarsson wrote:

ladies and gentlemen, this thread is mean to help the game, There NO fighting allow in this Thread, If you want talk *** about them then go on general chat and talk *** about whom ever you seen to toss your rage at.


Any and all that "NOT" on topic shall be reported and be ignore

Thanks Kaz, I will oblige.

All warfare is based on deception. Hence, when we are able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must appear inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near.”
― Sun Tzu, The Art of War

Re: The game is slowly going to die.

Maidden wrote:
Rex Amelius wrote:

Thanks for thinking for me and telling me how I think. It's an amazing trick done often on this forum. Good luck out there.

You are quite welcome.. Reading A-S-S Hatters minds like yours is very easy! We should do it again sometime!

Your rage is pointed in the wrong direction.

Also your idea on NPC mercenaries would only make life worse for you as vets--with countless sub-500k accounts and countless billions--turn them against you.

Trying to come up with ideas to level the field between nob and vet is mostly lost cause. Best idea is for developers to create more space. But tell me again how full of *** I am. Meanwhile have a cool one. On me.

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31 (edited by Kaz Rock Horgarsson 2014-09-08 02:10:44)

Re: The game is slowly going to die.

And as for you Rex amelius, I know why you are here and there for shall be ignore.

To all, there will a ignore list will be on the 1st post that i made for this thread, if you see their names on that list, Do not reply to them and just ignore them.

And thank you Maidden, thats your only warning tho, next time Try to be civil.

32 (edited by Maidden 2014-09-08 02:15:02)

Re: The game is slowly going to die.

Rex Amelius wrote:
Maidden wrote:
Rex Amelius wrote:

Thanks for thinking for me and telling me how I think. It's an amazing trick done often on this forum. Good luck out there.

You are quite welcome

Your rage is pointed in the wrong direction.

Also your idea on NPC mercenaries would only make life worse for you as vets--with countless sub-500k accounts and countless billions--turn them against you.

Trying to come up with ideas to level the field between nob and vet is mostly lost cause. Best idea is for developers to create more space. But tell me again how full of *** I am. Meanwhile have a cool one. On me.

Lets see 28.99 real money just for a account.. Only 3 characters per account besides your main. That is sure to boost Perpetuums financial vested interest and status.  Doubt that would ever happen. Unless you really are masochistic right?

Besides most vets I know already have all the alts. Why I added EP values. How many CIR, 77th or PHM have characters that pvp below the 600k mark? Why it stands. Even if that alliance has a few players under that mark. It would still even out the battlefield and lessen the vet advantage. Which is the reason for such.

Such as it should be according to the Syndic socialist/communist ideology. Do not see why you would disagree with such!

All warfare is based on deception. Hence, when we are able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must appear inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near.”
― Sun Tzu, The Art of War

Re: The game is slowly going to die.

Dude you got told No we won't recruit you and now your bad mouthing us in game and spread more of that vile nonsense, about "people killing the game."

[03:04:30] <Maidden>  If you are a new player looking for a corp. Please feel free to join ND or RAD. Avoid joining PHM,CIR, or 77th.  While they can offer you a wet noodle dream. They are the sole cause of why this game maintains a low population.

Recruitment chat, really?  Take the "No." Like a man and move along.  We are killing the game by actively playing the game and OP is a troll account.  GG.

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34 (edited by Maidden 2014-09-08 03:05:33)

Re: The game is slowly going to die.

Ville wrote:

Dude you got told No we won't recruit you and now your bad mouthing us in game and spread more of that vile nonsense, about "people killing the game."

[03:04:30] <Maidden>  If you are a new player looking for a corp. Please feel free to join ND or RAD. Avoid joining PHM,CIR, or 77th.  While they can offer you a wet noodle dream. They are the sole cause of why this game maintains a low population.

Recruitment chat, really?  Take the "No." Like a man and move along.  We are killing the game by actively playing the game and OP is a troll account.  GG.

lol@Ville, Been thee, Done that!  I never asked to be recruited by you or CIR or 77th. I was already a member of CIR. I already know how you operate. Even know  your inner workings. Get a Clue!!

Career:  Better take a close look!http://i.imgur.com/Efc9hxJ.jpgand that is not counting my two alt accounts already in your alliance.

All warfare is based on deception. Hence, when we are able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must appear inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near.”
― Sun Tzu, The Art of War

35 (edited by Stranger Danger 2014-09-08 03:14:04)

Re: The game is slowly going to die.

No hes right, we should go back to when the game had no CIR.  Back when STC/NEBS ruled the game, allied up to 90% of the server and no one played.

Thing is, the losers of the game will always blame the winners for killing the game.  These people don't want to play a game where victory isn't handed to them on a silver platter...

Blame us all you want, we played the game to the best of our ability.

The true cause of the players thinning out isn't over politics, as CONS clearly saw during new hope when NSI/GHOST/forget who else nooby corps all quit because CONS pvped them and lost.  That was noob on noob violence ignoring stags shameful presence.

People thin out due to lack of content and the fact that this game needs some serious development done to it as well as being a type of game that isn't going to cater to most gamers... I would say 90% are going to leave when they realize its not MWO in an open world, then 9% will quit due to issues with the game (valid or not) such as poor pve content.  the other 1% are those who make it through the other hurdles this game has, and quit because they cant easily win.

Its like talking to a wall though.  CIR/77 vs the world were super evil rage filled individuals who want the game to die in the eyes of the rest of the server....yeah yeah....

same *** as always.  Thing is, we kill the game though activity and playing, other people have used planned inactivity to bore people out...not sure what you prefer....thing is...losers always look for the excuse that doesn't involve them getting better, so they stay bad, keep losing, and look to blame anything other than themselves and their leaders.

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Re: The game is slowly going to die.

I got you and another Cons members mixed up, my bad.

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37 (edited by Maidden 2014-09-08 03:25:36)

Re: The game is slowly going to die.

Stranger Danger wrote:

No hes right, we should go back to when the game had no CIR.  Back when STC/NEBS ruled the game, allied up to 90% of the server and no one played.

Thing is, the losers of the game will always blame the winners for killing the game.  These people don't want to play a game where victory isn't handed to them on a silver platter...

Blame us all you want, we played the game to the best of our ability.

The true cause of the players thinning out isn't over politics, as CONS clearly saw during new hope when NSI/GHOST/forget who else nooby corps all quit because CONS pvped them and lost.  That was noob on noob violence ignoring stags shameful presence.

People thin out due to lack of content and the fact that this game needs some serious development done to it as well as being a type of game that isn't going to cater to most gamers... I would say 90% are going to leave when they realize its not MWO in an open world, then 9% will quit due to issues with the game (valid or not) such as poor pve content.  the other 1% are those who make it through the other hurdles this game has, and quit because they cant easily win.

Its like talking to a wall though.  CIR/77 vs the world were super evil rage filled individuals who want the game to die in the eyes of the rest of the server....yeah yeah....

same *** as always.  Thing is, we kill the game though activity and playing, other people have used planned inactivity to bore people out...not sure what you prefer....thing is...losers always look for the excuse that doesn't involve them getting better, so they stay bad, keep losing, and look to blame anything other than themselves and their leaders.

It is not a matter of who is dominant at given time. Rather, what can be offered to even pvp for newer and low EP players. Ideas that give both veterans and noobie players a challenge

I am mainly a industrial player. So honestly do not care that much about pvp. But for newer corps and newer players. That particular facet of the game may interest them. But after this many years. It is still severely one sided.

So do you have any ideas to fix the issue. I throw them out. While PHM takes one of two non CIR alliance POS's.  I do not want CIR gratuity or scraps. Our corp is the only POS left. So take it! As your alliance is the reason for the low population and loss of newer players. As well as why so many leave this game.

The sad part is your alliance to this day still has not figured that part out!

All warfare is based on deception. Hence, when we are able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must appear inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near.”
― Sun Tzu, The Art of War

38 (edited by Maidden 2014-09-08 04:29:10)

Re: The game is slowly going to die.

You want a war? Sure you do. To get that, you and your alliance will have to sacrifice. Back out of some islands. Let other corps take over some. Let other corps mine resources, build a army. Give it some time. Instead of having your alliance get a temporary pvp fix by crushing newer corps that barely got started. That is the real fix from your side.

But your alliance is not interested in such a endeavor. Rather you will crush anyone who tries to take  unit of Epitron on any beta! Let alone try to have a POS. So please tell me you are not part of the problem. In reality your alliance is the problem. And the reason this game is continually losing players.

Syndics ideology is wrong. Soviets lost the economy. In this game that same ideology is failing. Instead of money, the game is losing its players! Til the only ones left will be the few who stick with your alliance.

I have a fix. Except it would require a private conversation with CIR,77, or PHMs leadership. I cannot post it on this forum. As it is a public forum.

All warfare is based on deception. Hence, when we are able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must appear inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near.”
― Sun Tzu, The Art of War

Re: The game is slowly going to die.

What is the point of this?  Besides saying we are the devil and blabla we killing the game with our awesomeness

40 (edited by Rex Amelius 2014-09-08 07:18:02)

Re: The game is slowly going to die.

Maiden, it's a mechanics issue. Sparks for one. Lack of islands for two, at least with regard to pvp power and domination issues. Look at my signature. I've been advocating that a long time so NEW players have room to grow while vets (hopefully) cannot be everywhere in minutes.

You're advocating change get to pvp mechanics while admitting to an industrial play style. Perhaps your opinions are wrong. Perhaps mine are. But I've said nothing in this thread to indicate my opinions are not sincere.

Perhaps it's a corp tag thing. I don't know don't care why.

EDIT: just noticed OP ignore list thing. You mad cause you dont like me disagreeing with your opinion? Dude, you're the one who started the topic accusing players of killing the game.

Zoom should just close it down.

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41 (edited by Kaz Rock Horgarsson 2014-09-08 08:07:49)

Re: The game is slowly going to die.

Nvm, I take it all back, Oh it's truly a shame, to even have hope for some kind of intelligent in that "Corp" but now I see what it's true colors are.

What a shame indeed, to anyone less Come with your helpful comments we need them!

And do ignore the ones that are on the list if they reply to you and report them if they being a jackass or trying to hurt your feelings or be a troll or talk about stuff that is off topic.

42 (edited by Maidden 2014-09-08 09:27:31)

Re: The game is slowly going to die.

Rex Amelius wrote:

Maiden, it's a mechanics issue. Sparks for one. Lack of islands for two, at least with regard to pvp power and domination issues. Look at my signature. I've been advocating that a long time so NEW players have room to grow while vets (hopefully) cannot be everywhere in minutes.

You're advocating change get to pvp mechanics while admitting to an industrial play style. Perhaps your opinions are wrong. Perhaps mine are. But I've said nothing in this thread to indicate my opinions are not sincere.

Perhaps it's a corp tag thing. I don't know don't care why.

EDIT: just noticed OP ignore list thing. You mad cause you dont like me disagreeing with your opinion? Dude, you're the one who started the topic accusing players of killing the game.

Zoom should just close it down.

I do not believe more room is going to fix the issue. I added some of the ideas I think would or could help. While you may disagree with the mercenary thing. I did throw out some other ideas.

As to the alliance. I know more than anyone that CIR,77, and PHM are actually a close knit gaming community. I did not say corps as that does not apply to just Perpetuum. Like I said earlier. I have a fix, but would need to talk to your alliance leadership to see it inacted. My hands are tied for it. So look me up in game.

All warfare is based on deception. Hence, when we are able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must appear inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near.”
― Sun Tzu, The Art of War

Re: The game is slowly going to die.

Jita wrote:

***
The 500m alpha side conflict zone is to make alpha gate hugging detectors / scouts at risk. Not only are you at risk on the beta side but you can't just jump back to alpha if your a greased as they have 500m to pin you down and kill you.

Ok i thought thats where you were going with that idea. IMO scouts will just sit at 501m from the gate & do what they are doing now......  or some other tactic i cant think of right now smile

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Re: The game is slowly going to die.

Maidden wrote:

You want a war? Sure you do. To get that, you and your alliance will have to sacrifice. Back out of some islands. Let other corps take over some. Let other corps mine resources, build a army. Give it some time. Instead of having your alliance get a temporary pvp fix by crushing newer corps that barely got started. That is the real fix from your side.

News flash we did that on Kentagura and it still didn't happen.  People got bored and slowly went to play other games.

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Re: The game is slowly going to die.

Ville wrote:
Maidden wrote:

You want a war? Sure you do. To get that, you and your alliance will have to sacrifice. Back out of some islands. Let other corps take over some. Let other corps mine resources, build a army. Give it some time. Instead of having your alliance get a temporary pvp fix by crushing newer corps that barely got started. That is the real fix from your side.

News flash we did that on Kentagura and it still didn't happen.  People got bored and slowly went to play other games.

But Player Ville. You hunted those people out of the game!

Just thought I'd say it before the peanut gallery start posting. smile

True Pros make a Podcast to influence the Devs minds, 
The rest of you guys are Hacks tongue

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Re: The game is slowly going to die.

After careful deliberation and examination of all the evidence presented, I am now ready to pass judgement on the following individuals - Maidden, Kaz Rock Horgarsson.

You have insulted and slandered (1) our corporation (2) our dear friends in 77 (3) our friends and comrades Rex Amelius, Ville, Optikhan, Stranger Danger, and Jasmoba, all the while presuming to demand in-game concessions.

Therefore, my judgement is as follows:

You, and your collection of alts (list provided to us by our beloved bo-tang) will be hunted down, and any corporation you join proceeding henceforth will also be targeted and hunted down until you are no longer members and/or the corporation disbands.

Henceforth you shall be recognized as the filthy unwashed toggies that you are and dealt with as such.

That is all.

Re: The game is slowly going to die.

Naismith wrote:

After careful deliberation and examination of all the evidence presented, I am now ready to pass judgement on the following individuals - Maidden, Kaz Rock Horgarsson.

You have insulted and slandered (1) our corporation (2) our dear friends in 77 (3) our friends and comrades Rex Amelius, Ville, Optikhan, Stranger Danger, and Jasmoba, all the while presuming to demand in-game concessions.

Therefore, my judgement is as follows:

You, and your collection of alts (list provided to us by our beloved bo-tang) will be hunted down, and any corporation you join proceeding henceforth will also be targeted and hunted down until you are no longer members and/or the corporation disbands.

Henceforth you shall be recognized as the filthy unwashed toggies that you are and dealt with as such.

That is all.


Sounds like harassment to me.

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Re: The game is slowly going to die.

Consequence and responsibility for actions taken in a sandbox can be misconstrued as harassment by the insipid, no doubt about that.

Re: The game is slowly going to die.

Naismith wrote:

Consequence and responsibility for actions taken in a sandbox can be misconstrued as harassment by the insipid, no doubt about that.

+1

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Re: The game is slowly going to die.

Oh Syndic...ya sound like a pompous ***....after careful deliberation....blah blah ...hunt them down....blah blah........moving on. Try to get with the programme...we are talking about growing the game.

I think we need more betas
new modules
new bots
world events
island events
special drops with resources and gear (so new players can hunt them on the new islands and get ahead) or a beacon that can access a unique location with resources, modules or bots
Companion beacon (when action ed - they can summon X number or type of bot)