I've personally seen more, We said that was going to happen, come from the partnership of equals than any other entity in game.

There used to be few players who would've been perfect for CSM positions(Ludlow, Tux and few others), sadly they don't play right now.

C'mon Burial they all defended SPT, you all know its bad for the game.

There have been a few round tables done and in the begining if the game there was a group of players who had Skype meetings to talk about direction and changes to be made.

In the end like most things it was stopped because certain entities cried about Dev access and secret Skype conversations. In retrospect I thought that these conversations were useful, however do believe the transcript should have been public.

The forums are a bad way to form game ideas simply because not everyone in game knows what they talk about. There are probably 6 or 7 people in game who understand gamma and I don't count myself among them. There are probably the same number who understand economics. To add to that some people in game will always look at changes through a prism of 'will this hurt me' and / or 'is this what my enemy wants'. You can't reason these people, they will fundamentally disagree because of who suggests it. A round table tends to cut through that bullshit - the last gamma round table was a good example of previously polar opposite parties largely agreeing and getting on fine. There was no bitterness or recriminations at all.

What's important however is a wide view. This game has dwindled for four years while,largely doing what it's player base asks for. They have screamed for endgame content because they are endgame and it has not alleviated any of the issues. What the players want May not even be helpful any more considering they are like 1% of what a healthy games population should look like.

I understand and agree with most of what you say. I still believe if the players and devs where willing to try this it would help a lot. The CSM system works well for eve i know this isn't eve but the games are similar enough for it to help.

PS. I personally don't consider myself a person who should be involved with this at all i'm still a very new player and know almost nothing about gama or what the gama changes mean.

http://content.perpetuum-online.com/aud … -07-05.mp3

the tutorial island is not an instance?

@Anni: They were talking about implementing actual copies of different locations that would be generated on a need basis, but eventually gave up(due to having to rewrite too much lower level engine code). While all of the islands and terminals are instances of a more generic island and terminal template, they are still not the same thing.

i learned how the server structure works over the years, but i have never done the new tutorial. it was supposed to be an instanced island as in "one instance for each noob"

Weird thing is that could be done with virtually no extra coding

You could easily make 50 mini islands not shown on the map and give as a mission item a teleport that goes to that specific mission location.