Rovoc wrote:

Thoughts on the Hermes:  Not enough cpu to effectively run a speed nexus.  Biggest limiting factor is the cargo size.  If i had to run around and grab 1 or 2 artifacts and head back this bot would be awesome.  However, if you're looking for a long session of being out on gamma i wouldn't recommend.  I would use this bot if this were prepatch and i didn't have enough ep to max geoscanning.  Doesn't come anywhere near an artifacting sequer.

To make this a true artefact specialist I would suggest applying a bonus to artefact popping range such that with full extensions one could pop a level 3 from, say, 100m and a level 1 from, say 200m.

QFT, but... i said that like 100 times alread< since argano got that useless scan range bonus

Thoughts on the Hermes:  Not enough cpu to effectively run a speed nexus.  Biggest limiting factor is the cargo size.  If i had to run around and grab 1 or 2 artifacts and head back this bot would be awesome.  However, if you're looking for a long session of being out on gamma i wouldn't recommend.  I would use this bot if this were prepatch and i didn't have enough ep to max geoscanning.  Doesn't come anywhere near an artifacting sequer.

To make this a true artefact specialist I would suggest applying a bonus to artefact popping range such that with full extensions one could pop a level 3 from, say, 100m and a level 1 from, say 200m.

Remote repairers start with 1.75 AP per hitpoint repaired
self repair modules start with 1.43 AP per hitpoint repaired

now, using tuners, this rations will get WORSE for the remote repairer,
and better for the self repairer:

each tuning will make self repair 20% more, and remote repair 10% less energy efficient!
pre patch it was +25% for self, and +35% for remote reps

edit: with a t1 or t2 repair tuning, RR ap/hp ratio will drop by 60% per tuning!

I say, and I keep saying this, that if veteran miner has drawback against other miner just because of maxed cycle time extensions, than this is wrong. Ofc I just need to use some credits to reduce cycle time, but this is _never_ how it should work when deploying a patch changing the mechanics.

please... numbers, real ones to show that a veteran has a disadvantage because of cycle time, especially when mining.

Anni ...was your liquzit miner cap stable or not because you implied it was and now you are saying it should not be and nor should any t4 fit bot.

my fully t4 fit miner is capstable. in case of liquid ore mining, only with the help of said scarab's hell of a industrial nexus bonus!
in case of ore mining, i would have one t4 geoscanner module, and as such, only 4 tuners.
aside from this reduction in AP consumption, i would eventually have issues with the massive micromanagement of constantly empty ground tiles and filled cargo, to even keep the miners running. (unless using mouse macros)

im sorry, to not be precise enough - but i don't see a reason why bot needs to be without tradoffs in accumulator consumption if its fully maximised in yield/damage/Range and cycletime.

goffer and logicalNegation are saying, that maxing out your equip and extensions shall free you from any limits.
or in other words, their ideal means, that the maximum possible needs to be a single solution 5 tunings + 5 mining modules of the highest aviailiable tier.
my ideal means, that the maximum self sufficient possible, can, and should be something smaller, so i automatically get multiple outcomes - like "maximum yield per cycle" or "maximum cycle-rate" + the extra option of having both with the help of (real)teamplay

and you can be stable, with only the help of a scarab standing next to you.

i dont't know what you guys are talking about regarding industrial tunings -> especially Goffer

i was mining liquizit yesterday with my riv mk2... 5t4 tuners and 5 t4 med miners. accu stable.
actually, the only thing i had issues with this whole time, was that i have never mined so much liquizit in such a short time.
1.5 mk1 scarabs full in one hour.

First as I wrote the yield with 2 tunings should be as before, so thats fine, the new yield is game changing.
But you cannot have maxed extensions for recycle time reduction if you are stable with that fit, or you had someone giving energy from outside.

And that is my concern, beeing not maxed at extensions allows you to use better equip so a veteran miner needs to reduce extensions or drop equipment, and I had tested with minerals I have not maxed extensions for cycle time, but still require T3 miners in order to keep stable, as T4 reduce cycle time that much, that I dry out fast.

I do not even think about fielding my T4+ MIner arms at the moment

BeastmodeGuNs wrote:

Ohmergawd I feel so tricked. I've been played like a damn fiddle man!

So you knew he was trolling you and your answer was to impress us all with your wealth of historical knowledge of the game of Perpetuum.   You Da man!

Well knowing Rovoc and his attention to history, I simply assumed he had forgot, it does happen!

Ohmergawd I feel so tricked. I've been played like a damn fiddle man!

So you knew he was trolling you and your answer was to impress us all with your wealth of historical knowledge of the game of Perpetuum.   You Da man!