just look at the constant complaints about roaming npcs on gamma that attack lone afk agents

I figured if a player Corp wants to hold the station(s) they should be forced to fight the npc's for control too.  Talk about adding an interesting dynamic into securing Beta Outposts.  ha ha
-Ensi

Couldn't agree more, we have been suggesting dynamic content and NPC involvement in all stations except the main alpha 1 stations for a long time. There is a whole potential environment of content there just waiting to be implemented. It could even tie in to the story line. I'm just not sure if the game engine could handle it tbh. If you look at other games out there poor perp is starting to look a bit "tired", not a criticism, just an observation.

Ensireka wrote:

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Ever played Tabula Rasa?  The npc's would take over the bases ... it was an ingenious idea.  Loved it!  Maybe we need npc's to hit saps and such ...

-Ensi

As former TR and also Firefall player,
you know, i have requested that for so long now... its what you call sandbox AI and living world.
its just out of reach of the current DEV team (and since the request is up for 5 years or more now, i would say, it always has been)

I miss Tabula Rasa.     

I figured if a player Corp wants to hold the station(s) they should be forced to fight the npc's for control too.  Talk about adding an interesting dynamic into securing Beta Outposts.  ha ha

-Ensi

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Ever played Tabula Rasa?  The npc's would take over the bases ... it was an ingenious idea.  Loved it!  Maybe we need npc's to hit saps and such ...

-Ensi

As former TR and also Firefall player,
you know, i have requested that for so long now... its what you call sandbox AI and living world.
its just out of reach of the current DEV team (and since the request is up for 5 years or more now, i would say, it always has been)

Inda wrote:

The current mechanic dont encourage teamplays, and squads to do missiosn together!

I just cry about it.

And just didnt mention to have to leave the squad at Beta.

PS: did I not mention the tokens?

It not only doesn't encourage team play it actively discourages it. I'm forced to leave squad every time. The rewards are kind of lackluster but since the NPC farming nerfs it's the only thing you can do on Alpha. I can make far more money mining/harvesting/artifacting on Beta/Gamma but when I'm tired after work on a week day and I don't want to have to think/worry about it that's where I'm going; back to 100% safe Alpha.

I agree with both here.

First comes squad then corp right??
It does not pay at all to run missions with more then 1 player, period.
The goals are harder and the rewards for all involved are a lot less.

I especially agree that if you do not play PVP, missions is the only thing you can do long term here in Alpha islands.

Rolafen you don't know what you are talking about. Two people doing missions solo make more money than two doing them together in a squad. Thsi is the same for three, four and onwards. That is even before tokens where there is zero increase in squad missions.

That's stupid and needs changing.

As much as i'd love to get more tokens per assignment, giving the 'squad mates' tokens is just silly.   How many people have alts that just do NOTHING?  Oh?  Just a few?  Like almost everyone on the server ...

Now that we have that cleared ... here is the problem you people refuse to face :

With 'squad mates' getting tokens, you will just flood the market or your storage with tokens just to buy that 'next best thing' ... as usual.  Oh?  You want more beacons?  Well here is 50k tokens for that level 6 assignment!  go get em! 

Come on guys.  It needs to be balanced, but not like that.  If they did that they'd have to cut the amount of beacons down for solo assignments in accordance with the change.

I can effectively grind a whole level (as much as a grind it really is) by simply just sticking to the assignments for a day.  When i say that, I literally mean being at the pc grinding away from 4 to 5 in one sitting, 5 to 6 in another and typically 6 to almost 7 in another.  They aren't hard.  They are just ... mind numbing. 

I will say, the pay on some of the level  6's is quite pathetic with the extensions at 10 ...

They were pathetic in EvE, WoW and every other game i've ever played.  In what game have missions, quests, assignments or tasks ever been enjoyable? 

Ever played Tabula Rasa?  The npc's would take over the bases ... it was an ingenious idea.  Loved it!  Maybe we need npc's to hit saps and such ...

-Ensi

Ville wrote:

I invite anyone to mine for 30 minutes on Krazlov.  I'll even give you a termis and lets talk about how many times your interrupted.

About a year ago we talked about this. It gave you a huge advantage in npc-ratting. Now you're against it. Because the mission became more favorable. Then you were opposed to the change NPC. I think nothing has changed and everything should stay as it is.

No.  A year ago, I said cut the NPC spawns in half and less spawns.  Today I said cut the NPC spawns in half and less spawns.  Theres no need to pull a Jita and straight lie.

I invite anyone to mine for 30 minutes on Krazlov.  I'll even give you a termis and lets talk about how many times your interrupted.

About a year ago we talked about this. It gave you a huge advantage in npc-ratting. Now you're against it. Because the mission became more favorable. Then you were opposed to the change NPC. I think nothing has changed and everything should stay as it is.

What does annoy me is that there is very minor factor of "scratch" escape from them or accumulating damage / need to retreat to repair from them. A red cloud is pretty much guaranteed to have demob and once a single one lands you are pretty much dead.

Dude Kraz NPCs are super aggressive.  I think Zoom purposely programmed it that way.  I would like to do Indy on that *** island but as soon as you setup shop, 12398`1273-891237y129-371-28938`1-378`12-89371`23890`176389`1273`01893712-3890`173-98`1273`9108237129837`1-93781`2 NPCs show up in 5 minute intervals, and it's like. egh *** it why bother.

I have to agree with this. During our time over there playing base games the NPC's certainly SEEMED to be more plentiful than other islands.

Even at Alpha we dont see our members, who do what, because they out of squad.